I Love Off Road Comparisons

"HammerheadFistpunch" (hammerheadfistpunch) 07/19/2018 at 13:29 • Filed to: Trucks, ZR2, TRD, Tacoma

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But why do they always drive these trucks like they are prerunners. They aren’t even raptor level, they are just small trucks with nice shocks.

If you are bouncing the truck...you are driving badly.*

*exceptions made for people who hate their trucks or bodies.

At least this Dan fellow seems to actually know his stuff on the trail. So thats nice.

For Sweden > HammerheadFistpunch 07/19/2018 at 13:36

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This is perfect for me.  I’ve hated my body for years!

Party-vi > HammerheadFistpunch 07/19/2018 at 13:37

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Hot take: The R aptor is also a small truck with nice shocks.

HammerheadFistpunch > Party-vi 07/19/2018 at 13:46

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Small?

2018 Raptor

Width - 86.3

length - 220 (smallest)

Hummer H1 alpha

Width - 86.5

Length - 184.5 (biggest)

Shift24 > HammerheadFistpunch 07/19/2018 at 13:49

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Man like I said earlier today , the Tacoma is so much better looking. Interesting to see how they were talking about the grip level being higher in the Pro

Daily Drives a Dragon - One Last Lap > HammerheadFistpunch 07/19/2018 at 13:49

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They drive them like that because jumps are cooler to normal people than slower, more responsible driving. 

adamftw > HammerheadFistpunch 07/19/2018 at 13:52

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I follow this guy on insta and he does know his shit

For Sweden > HammerheadFistpunch 07/19/2018 at 13:53

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Did he stutter?

For Sweden > adamftw 07/19/2018 at 13:53

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That’s useful for tracking wildlife

HammerheadFistpunch > Daily Drives a Dragon - One Last Lap 07/19/2018 at 13:57

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this is true...but its bad for comparisons. 

Ash78, voting early and often > Daily Drives a Dragon - One Last Lap 07/19/2018 at 14:13

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Here in the Dirty South, for as long as I can remember, the mudriders have looked down their noses at the rockcrawlers (and vice versa).

We don’t have a lot of high-speed trails on account of all the trees...

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > adamftw 07/19/2018 at 14:23

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suspensiontuna - ha!

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > HammerheadFistpunch 07/19/2018 at 14:24

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I pretty much agree, but they are testing them for our benefit , and should push them to the limits of their capability (further than a normal, sane person would go).

HammerheadFistpunch > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com 07/19/2018 at 14:34

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I disagree with that. When y ou are at the limit with shocks off road you aren’t in the meat of the shocks performance curve, especially with multi- zone shocks like these have. All you learn is how they handle high speed bottoming and rebound in their most extreme damping curves which because shock travel is limited i s necessarily harsh and aggressive . The TLDR is that this data is useless - people know that when you drive too fast for a suspension system on bad roads you are going to have a harsh and bumpy ride.

Now if they took both trucks over the same road with the same driver and ramped up the speed until suspension control was lost or driver confidence eroded and then gave us the speed of each...thats useful extreme testing.

All bouncing around too fast in the desert does is reinforce this bad driving as a false feature of these trucks.  

Party-vi > HammerheadFistpunch 07/19/2018 at 14:51

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There are trucks ( which are used for work) , and then there are small trucks ( which are sold to people to transport passengers) .

HammerheadFistpunch > Party-vi 07/19/2018 at 14:58

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ah. Got it

Big truck

small truck

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > HammerheadFistpunch 07/19/2018 at 14:58

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I’ll agree that they spent way too long going that fast, but like you said in your second paragraph, I don’t see anything wrong with building up to a certain speed on terrain like that to see how far they can be pushed, and then quickly backing off.

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > HammerheadFistpunch 07/19/2018 at 14:59

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I’ll never “ hate” my truck like these two “ hate” these loaners - ha!

Party-vi > HammerheadFistpunch 07/19/2018 at 15:11

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listen here you little shit

Daily Drives a Dragon - One Last Lap > Ash78, voting early and often 07/19/2018 at 15:41

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Interesting point, however I fail to see how that was relevant. 

Ash78, voting early and often > Daily Drives a Dragon - One Last Lap 07/19/2018 at 15:58

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Driving fast in the mud is more “fun” to a lot of people than going slowly over rocks. It also makes for better videos.

SilentButNotReallyDeadly...killed by G/O Media > HammerheadFistpunch 07/19/2018 at 19:40

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Imagine how useful they would be as station wagons instead of having those useless blisters hanging over their rear axles?